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Transcript: Unlocking the Potential of Cloud: Moving to Cloud Smart
[00:00:00 The text “Unlocking the Potential of Cloud – Moving From Cloud First to Cloud Smart” appears onscreen.]
[00:00:07 The screen fades to Sami Khoury in a video chat panel.]
SAMI KHOURY (Head, Canadian Centre for Cyber Security/Dirigeant principal du Centre canadien pour la cybersecurité): Over the years and through experience, we've sort of concluded that not everything is suited for the cloud. Some solutions are very well suited, like SaaS offering, and maybe compute with elastic compute, but others, maybe a long-term solution might be better and there might be cases where for security reasons, on-prem is better suited than cloud. So, in that case, we've added, in the vocabulary, this concept of cloud smart, just to make sure that we're going to the cloud for the right reason and incentives, and not simply go with the cloud at any cost.
[00:00:46 François Brunet is shown in a separate video chat panel.]
FRANÇOIS BRUNET (Chief Digital Officer at Canada School of Public Service/Dirigeant principal du numérique, École de la fonction publique du Canada): I think you got it right, Sami. So, I think if you go back a couple of years from now, it was just about moving to the cloud at any cost, and I think with some lessons learned and understanding of how we operate in the cloud, it's not a free service. If you don't manage your cloud environment very well, it may cost you more than what it used to on-prem. So, you really need to assess your portfolio of applications and making sure that it makes sense to deploy your services on the cloud, because as soon as you deploy something, the money spending is starting, the clock has started. So, when you need elasticity, and when I was talking about scaling up and scaling down, those are the benefits from the cloud. So, when you assess your portfolio of applications, you'd also need to think about where am I going to benefit the most, the elasticity and the ability to scale up and down. To give you the best example, with FMT, initially, when we were planning to go in the cloud, it was going to cost something like $20 million but by having the right mechanism in place behind it, the scene, so basically the last user will log off at 7:00 at night. All the infrastructure went to bed until the next user logged in in the morning and all the infrastructure could spin up itself. It was all scripted and then we made about 12 to $13 million savings. So, I think as CIOs and senior directors and managers responsible of business applications, we need to think about what are the benefits of the cloud or do I gain benefit from moving to the cloud or not with existing apps. The only caveat I want to say is most of us now see a non-prem service as a technical debt. Sometimes it is, sometimes it's not, and then it's just doing your assessment and checking where's your application and its life cycle to understand what decision you need to take if you're moving it to the cloud or not.
[00:03:06 The video chat fades to the CSPS logo.]
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